tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post6524882279503811605..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: Joel Klein: As Excellent As He Says He Is? Part VDukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-79383674702155096332013-01-22T07:19:11.547-08:002013-01-22T07:19:11.547-08:00One of the problems with using percentages is that...One of the problems with using percentages is that it can obscure population changes. 43% of x(2003) = 9,799, while 27% of x(2011) = 5,843. So there's about a 5% drop in the population in Syracuse over that time, but a 40% decline in the White population.<br /><br />Which wouldn't matter if White were homogeneous. But it's not--and the people most likely to leave are those who have the resources to be able to leave.<br /><br />It's a double effect: you have fewer White students, and <em>significantly more</em> <b>poor</b> White students as a percent of the White population.<br /><br />If anything, your down-and-dirty method <em>understates</em> the negative impact, because the cohort has changed as well.<br /><br />(Short example: you, I, and Bill Gates live in Syracuse along with seven other people of NYS median income. Over the next eight years, Bill and three of the others move away, replaced by two Asian and two Hispanic family who each make NYS Median Income +/- 5%.<br /><br />Median income drops overall (Bill left), drops significantly for the White cohort (ibid.), and changes slightly if at all for the Hispanic and Asian cohorts.<br /><br />Overall poverty in the city doesn't increase, but non-school resources devoted to Bill&Melinda-spawn are not allocated locally. Maybe some of that gap is made up by different choices from the new parents--but not all of it.<br /><br />Overall human capital investment has declined. We should expect educational results to decline as well.<br /><br />To put it as nicely as possible, NYC median income rose over that period. Even if the cohort were fairly constant, you would expect to see improvement in the results. The disappearance of Kodak (Rochester) and the continuing long-term decline of the Buffalo area means those with means to leave are more likley to do so.<br /><br />The mass exodus from NYC occurred at the beginning of the period (post-9/11); opportunities expanded there post-2003.<br /><br />I could have produced relative growth in NYC during that time, and I haven't taught in a secondary school classroom since 1981. All you needed to do was do nothing. (Heck, could have done a few things wrong and the result would still be relatively positive.)Ken Houghtonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01440837287933536370noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-39252541355570042422013-01-21T07:54:55.636-08:002013-01-21T07:54:55.636-08:00Not sure if this has been mentioned or not in your...Not sure if this has been mentioned or not in your series on Joel Klein but even if it was, it's important to mention again.<br /><br />Klein served as Chair of "The Broad Center for the Management of School Systems".Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09229042262802354432noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-16510942003892950782013-01-20T19:57:36.332-08:002013-01-20T19:57:36.332-08:00Well, I did that for the four graphs in this post,...Well, I did that for the four graphs in this post, but not the previous one with child poverty. Excel does not play nice sometimes.<br /><br />Again, this is quick and dirty. Maybe one day, I'll put this together properly.<br />Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-19524283194156165262013-01-20T15:22:37.302-08:002013-01-20T15:22:37.302-08:00Another request for those of us who are going blin...Another request for those of us who are going blind:<br />Can you have each city remain the same color in each of the graphs?<br />gfb9+2/3https://www.blogger.com/profile/15042279714523455756noreply@blogger.com