tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post972015244329201161..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: The World's Stupidest NewspaperDukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-74229329673545201522012-03-11T18:36:59.419-07:002012-03-11T18:36:59.419-07:00Thank you. More to come.Thank you. More to come.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-64003449669646460222012-03-11T16:05:27.285-07:002012-03-11T16:05:27.285-07:00Kudoes for manning up and correcting. Sorry for th...Kudoes for manning up and correcting. Sorry for the attitude.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-73707311009849060252012-03-10T14:26:19.076-08:002012-03-10T14:26:19.076-08:00Anon: so, you're saying that it does mean some...Anon: so, you're saying that it does mean something that an "elite" school has teachers with a normal VAM score distribution?<br /><br />Please, go ahead and tell us what it means.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-168868359890837492012-03-10T12:42:48.099-08:002012-03-10T12:42:48.099-08:00I got it, but then I'm Jersey.I got it, but then I'm Jersey.Teacher Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17023044658046241555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-66664088101818357272012-03-10T11:59:08.319-08:002012-03-10T11:59:08.319-08:00omigod, I can't believe you don't get this...omigod, I can't believe you don't get this. Or you are again hoping you talk to idiots. The VAM measure by no means generates an average dispersal for each school. So the average dispersal of an elite school is worthy of note.<br /><br />I guess music school was light on statistics. <br /><br />Wanna retreat and think about htis some more before embarrassing yourself futher?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-32596247417841021672012-03-10T08:48:10.708-08:002012-03-10T08:48:10.708-08:00Since I knwo you won't take my word for it:
h...Since I knwo you won't take my word for it:<br /><br />http://schools.nyc.gov/NR/rdonlyres/A62750A4-B5F5-43C7-B9A3-F2B55CDF8949/87046/TDINYCTechnicalReportFinal072010.pdf<br /><br />"Value-added models often control for measurable student characteristics such as race, income, and disability, and measurable classroom characteristics such as class size to help isolate the impact of schooling. The model in New York City uses a large set of student and classroom characteristics to identify the extent to which teachers contribute to the improvement of student achievement outcomes in their classrooms."Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-14761030414475454632012-03-10T08:45:29.858-08:002012-03-10T08:45:29.858-08:00Oh, Anon...
VAM attempts to account for student v...Oh, Anon...<br /><br />VAM attempts to account for student variables - that's the entire point. And the student population is far more homogeneous over a school than a district.<br /><br />So the VAM scores are attempting to correct for exactly what you are talking about. And they - surprise! - show 1/2 are above average.<br /><br />Nice try, but I've been doing this for a while now. Bring your "A" game next time.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-2204395827014494792012-03-10T08:39:38.916-08:002012-03-10T08:39:38.916-08:00Even you couldn't miss, since it is in the lea...Even you couldn't miss, since it is in the lead, that the entire story is about the city-wide NYC teacher ratings. The fact that an elite school's teachers are only half above average is both relevant and enlightening.<br /><br />Your faux (hopefully) reaction is either 1: insulting to the intelligence of the blog readers; 2: ignorant of the reality; or 3: juvenile and sarcastic.<br /><br />I'm hoping 3, with 1 oafishly unintended by you.<br /><br />Again, you communicate as someone used to preaching to less knowledgeable people than you, and it has gone to your head in a sad way. Try writing as if you were speaking to informed adults who won't think you the fool.<br /><br />PS: And, yes, I understand that you are probably parroting the old saw about Eisenhower.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com