tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post7464249433268094993..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: NJ Teacher Evaluation: There's No Escaping The Problems With VAMsDukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-35962861245381871202013-03-21T11:03:19.747-07:002013-03-21T11:03:19.747-07:00Extensive data? What data? Mathy? Rotten? Peac...Extensive data? What data? Mathy? Rotten? Peaches? Orchard? Huh?Bill Michaelsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11814400518038908587noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-75944949482743891972013-03-16T16:37:08.617-07:002013-03-16T16:37:08.617-07:00OMG - Seniority?? Really? The peach that hung on...OMG - Seniority?? Really? The peach that hung on the tree the longest is the one you want? Regardless of what happened while it hung there? <br /><br />You mathy types can throw down all the stats you want. You aren't going to KNOW anything for sure about the peaches until you tend to the orchard. <br /><br />And here's a thought, now that we've lived with the seniority model for a good long time, and seen the impact IT had on a host of issues in education, how about gathering up the extensive data on that and treating what's rotten.Mrs. King's music studentshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05211235832988015448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-24410796894410251762013-03-10T17:09:14.777-07:002013-03-10T17:09:14.777-07:00Brava, Lisa! Great catch.Brava, Lisa! Great catch.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-64367947664130708742013-03-10T17:05:13.891-07:002013-03-10T17:05:13.891-07:00Not only does the creator of the SGP state that th...Not only does the creator of the SGP state that the SGP does not identify the contribution to student growth made by a teacher, but so does the the State of NJ itself on its NJDOE website. Yet, 45% of a teacher's evaluation of effectiveness is the SGP.<br /><br />The below quote is copied directly from the last page of the _SGP-General Overview_ paper that’s located on the NJDOE NJSmart web page on Student Performance: <br /><br />http://www.nj.gov/education/njsmart/performance/SGP_Detailed_General_Overview.pdf<br /><br />“The median student growth percentile is descriptive and makes no assertion about the cause of<br />student growth. This differs from current value-added models where the purpose is to specify<br />the contribution to student achievement provided by a given school or teacher.”<br /><br />If the creators and users (NJDOE) of SGP state that the SGP “makes no assertion about the cause of student growth”, i.e. that SGP does not--and is not designed to--show who or what is responsible for the student growth or lack thereof, why is 35%-45% of a teacher’s effectiveness evaluation based on student growth as measured by SGP?<br /><br />This blaring contradiction needs to be answered and addressed by the State before it's forced to defend it in court at taxpayer expense.<br /><br />--Lisa<br /><br />Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15944318060384221497noreply@blogger.com