tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post537953591880826404..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: Oh, Matt...Dukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-33217391231140444472011-08-28T20:23:32.077-07:002011-08-28T20:23:32.077-07:00And now I know you're just a gainsayer. Read w...And now I know you're just a gainsayer. Read what I wrote - really read it.<br /><br />The point is that HIGH-STAKES decisions should not be made with a method that has such high error rates.<br /><br />I suppose the NRC and ETS and RAND and EPI and NEPC and all the rest are "idiotic" because they say the same thing. I guess you know better than all of them, what with their "statistics" and "scientific method" and "peer review" and all that other worthless junk...<br /><br />No one "ignores" student learning. No one ignores test scores. But tying pay to test scores is error-prone and will do serious harm to the profession. Serious studies show this over and over again.<br /><br />I've made my case. The burden of proof is on you to show, through REAL evidence (not the pitter-patter of your heart telling you so), that I am incorrect.<br /><br />Saying I'm an idiot is not proof. Saying I can't prove a negative is not proof.<br /><br />Let's raise the bar here a little, OK? Otherwise, why are you here?Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-73828371298708944172011-08-28T09:42:17.509-07:002011-08-28T09:42:17.509-07:00Did I say "merit pay"? Nope. I'm jus...Did I say "merit pay"? Nope. I'm just saying that it is idiotic on its face not to take test scores into account just because it's not a perfect measure -- OK, it's not perfect, but it sure as hell isn't perfect to completely ignore student learning either.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-14194919367811542882011-08-28T06:44:58.654-07:002011-08-28T06:44:58.654-07:00Burden of proof, Anon. Look up "argument from...Burden of proof, Anon. Look up "argument from ignorance." You have the burden to prove merit pay will work.<br /><br />Where's your proof?Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-7116388108287709812011-08-27T11:21:16.982-07:002011-08-27T11:21:16.982-07:00Neither of you smartasses can say a single thing d...Neither of you smartasses can say a single thing disproving what I said: your side has "implemented" its idea of merit for a long time, with zero evidence that it accomplishes anything.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-14505173769182572822011-08-27T04:39:26.520-07:002011-08-27T04:39:26.520-07:00Thanks, Anaon for reminding me that the know-nothi...Thanks, Anaon for reminding me that the know-nothings from the 19th century didn't disappear in the dustbin of history, but have re-appeared in the 21st century as education reformers and critics.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12813056667733621829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-31196070127732279562011-08-24T19:36:27.141-07:002011-08-24T19:36:27.141-07:00Almost there, Anon. You have to add something abou...Almost there, Anon. You have to add something about "our failing schools" to really bring the platitude home.<br /><br />Oh, and mention the all-powerful unions. That's always helpful, 'cause look at all the power they have right now...<br /><br />(sigh)Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-5599489857131502372011-08-24T19:26:52.917-07:002011-08-24T19:26:52.917-07:00Value-added is so last year. Check out California&...Value-added is so last year. Check out California's new EQI rankings:<br />http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion/opinionla/la-ed-test-20110824,0,7688499.storyDeclineReduxhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03976214690481461041noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-37512299515302808542011-08-24T19:21:12.040-07:002011-08-24T19:21:12.040-07:00"Dude, my side isn't implementing ANYTHIN..."Dude, my side isn't implementing ANYTHING!"<br /><br />Um, pardon me for noticing, but your side has been implementing its own teacher evaluation system for many decades now ("Are you still alive? You get a raise! Did you get a useless masters' degree in educational philosophy? Another raise!"). But we know for sure that your side's system is a a dumbass way to do things.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com