tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post2880947146447849832..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: Poverty MattersDukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-48366200909002602122011-12-27T13:54:34.988-08:002011-12-27T13:54:34.988-08:00Probably so, unless you really think that in sever...Probably so, unless you really think that in several countries, their <i>average</i> level of wealth is the same as that in our <i>least-poor</i> districts.Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-57761249209662437392011-12-27T13:06:21.005-08:002011-12-27T13:06:21.005-08:00You are evading my direct question - a question th...You are evading my direct question - a question that gets to the very heart of the matter:<br /><br />Is the difference in measuring poverty between countries so great that it hides poor performance by low-poverty schools in the US?<br /><br />It's a simple question, and the key to Ripley's argument.<br /><br />I keep telling you I've got a post coming, but I've been distracted all day - need to write it now...Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-87306443886984817452011-12-27T11:21:19.278-08:002011-12-27T11:21:19.278-08:00I don't know whether there's a disparity i...I don't know whether there's a disparity in the education actually provided. I suspect that there is, and there's much better evidence on the point than a few blog posts here and there: http://educationnext.org/when-the-best-is-mediocre/ <br /><br />Even so, the point stands that Ravitch and her acolytes are wrong to take comfort in the fact that the <i>least poor</i> American districts seem to do only about as well as some other countries' <i>average</i> for all schools.Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-29592579723299254172011-12-27T10:25:36.703-08:002011-12-27T10:25:36.703-08:00Stuart, no one disagrees that the measures are dif...Stuart, no one disagrees that the measures are different - I get it.<br /><br />But are you prepared to say the difference in measures is hiding a huge disparity in the quality of education for our country's most affluent kids compared to those in other countries?<br /><br />Yes or no? <br /><br />I'll have the answer up in a while.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-13427912349072589182011-12-27T10:23:30.698-08:002011-12-27T10:23:30.698-08:00Ha! I mention "soccer" once, and a bot c...Ha! I mention "soccer" once, and a bot comes by and drops a comment about Man-U. Too funny!Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-70667505407116327552011-12-27T08:53:59.197-08:002011-12-27T08:53:59.197-08:00Manchester United may have a long history, but Fer...Manchester United may have a long history, but Ferguson took over at the Busby era of glory has long faded, the team has been without a crown 20 years from Liverpool also won a double-digit record.<br /><br /><a href="http://www.buyjerseyhere.com" rel="nofollow">manchester united jersey</a>chief gabrilhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12508507717414183668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-46008764802944577272011-12-27T05:58:07.338-08:002011-12-27T05:58:07.338-08:00Maybe this would make it clearer: the "povert...Maybe this would make it clearer: the "poverty" measure that Ravitch (and other people, to be sure) uses for other countries isn't really measuring poverty. It's measuring inequality. A country where everyone earned a dollar a day would have zero "poverty," because everyone would be at the median. <br /><br />Look, you can still think poverty has a huge impact on educational outcomes, but that doesn't mean you have to defend Ravitch's completely bogus way of addressing the issue.Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.com