tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post2047026581746138301..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: "Good" Schools or "Good" Students?Dukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-10454199779741700252012-04-28T07:21:24.346-07:002012-04-28T07:21:24.346-07:00oooh let's play the hypothetical game. Let'...oooh let's play the hypothetical game. Let's use Wake county schools as a guide. They cross neighborhood lines to make their schools as balanced and diverse as possible both racially and socioeconomically. THey even maintain property values because VERY kid gets to go to a great school. They even have great outcomes for the kids, but the big bad money men don't like people mixing together. So they pay for the elections of people who think like them, "people shouldn't mix and damn the consequences, we want separate classes and separate races." elected to the school board in an attempt to end the diversity program that has served all the children so well. <br /><br />What if any child in the state could go to any public school, or better yet, we scrapped property taxes and mixed everybody up for the purpose of education. Not saying it's a good idea, but consider it a moment.<br /><br />I live in a melting pot community because it's that kind of diversity I want for my own kids, and I would love for my students to have it as well.Teacher Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17023044658046241555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-68178576314655680802012-04-28T07:10:30.782-07:002012-04-28T07:10:30.782-07:00Man I wish I had a copy of this blog last week dur...Man I wish I had a copy of this blog last week during a heated Teacher room discussion. Trying to explain to a much older educator why the school down the street in "that" neighborhood is such a failure. She believed poverty wasn't the cause because the very white staff sitting around the table also grew up poor. Being the only teacher at that table who yes grew up poor but also taught in "that" neighborhood, I got out my soapbox and rang her bell to the applause of the one African-American at the table, but I like what you said better. I tend to be too emotional about the topic ;)Teacher Momhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17023044658046241555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-18025994254415963002012-04-17T05:30:58.783-07:002012-04-17T05:30:58.783-07:00Question for anonymous 8:30 PM:
If you had the cho...Question for anonymous 8:30 PM:<br />If you had the choice of being merely inane or being an attention craving narcissistic troll....oh, wait, you are already all of the above. You really do enjoy all the negative attention as it inflates your ego.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-42129380276730341472012-04-16T20:30:35.428-07:002012-04-16T20:30:35.428-07:00Question for Jazzman:
If you had the choice of lo...Question for Jazzman:<br /><br />If you had the choice of lowering class sizes by ten percent, or having the state give every NJEA member a special Christmas pony of their very own next year, which would you do?<br /><br />Follow up: what if the pony was worth $10,000, immediately redeemable in cash.<br /><br />Second followup: in addition to your vote, how do you think the NJEA and Babs and Vinnie would vote?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-45193057808209474532012-04-16T17:02:46.606-07:002012-04-16T17:02:46.606-07:00Poverty matters? Who'd a-thunk?
You nailed it...Poverty matters? Who'd a-thunk?<br /><br />You nailed it again, massive thanks for all you do.<br /><br />@davezirkDavehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10846620993152259555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-80417603241255547512012-04-16T07:19:20.426-07:002012-04-16T07:19:20.426-07:00Just curious....if every homeowner in inner city C...Just curious....if every homeowner in inner city Camden was given vouchers that allowed their kids to attend any public school in New Jersey, what would be the effect on Camden real estate?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-15454706183452253962012-04-16T06:23:44.652-07:002012-04-16T06:23:44.652-07:00A "voucher" to attend any public school ...A "voucher" to attend any <i>public</i> school isn't really a "voucher" as the term is commonly used in education politics. If anything, it may just be aggressively co-opting the other side's rhetoric.<br /><br />In Providence, I can apply to any elementary school in the city -- you could go through the motions of giving me a "voucher" at some point in the process, but it wouldn't change how it works.Tom Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577165613934129833noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-19079158164062490922012-04-16T05:40:08.820-07:002012-04-16T05:40:08.820-07:00Whatever Warren's intent (which I'll withh...Whatever Warren's intent (which I'll withhold judgment on because I haven't read it), it's certainly true that the segregation of public schools - socioeconomic and racial - is a major problem, especially here in NJ. But to suggest that the solution lies in privatization of the system, through vouchers, charters, or something else, is foolish. There are ways of addressing the problem while keeping public schools public - and one of the key elements isn't even an education issue, it's affordable housing. I'd be surprised if Warren didn't agree. Surprised and disappointed.Tamar Wyschogrodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16753681671510193847noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-11857358046730276432012-04-16T05:02:45.064-07:002012-04-16T05:02:45.064-07:00I think you should hold off on this until reading ...I think you should hold off on this until reading more of Warren's context. It seems like she's using the loaded term "voucher" here in a non-standard way with an economic purpose unrelated to education reform.<br /><br />Letting students from lower-income neighborhoods attend schools in higher-income neighborhoods and/or districts, and vice-versa, is a progressive policy. It looks to me (having not read Warren's book) like the US News article is intentionally distorting Warren's position.Tom Hoffmanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08577165613934129833noreply@blogger.com