tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post2038903747267245626..comments2024-03-22T02:15:56.280-07:00Comments on Jersey Jazzman: Hey KIPP: Take the Camden Challenge!Dukehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-18522978359995284342012-08-27T12:08:24.989-07:002012-08-27T12:08:24.989-07:00What does he say about KIPP specifically, and how ...What does he say about KIPP specifically, and how do you know he's telling the full truth rather than exaggerating in service of his polemical style? Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-3714225632600421422012-08-27T11:49:26.444-07:002012-08-27T11:49:26.444-07:00And on the basis of your personal opinion of the m...And on the basis of your personal opinion of the man, I should discount Kozol's "Shame of the Nation," which documents exactly what Paul is talking about?<br /><br />No thanks.Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-54775730390824807942012-08-27T09:44:59.078-07:002012-08-27T09:44:59.078-07:00Relying on what you read and hear is fine, but onl...Relying on what you read and hear is fine, but only if you seek out reliable sources of information, not those that say things about KIPP that are indisputably untrue. <br /><br /><br />I've heard Kozol speak, and he is a bit of a batty demagogue. The time I saw him, he gave his usual tirade against Teach for America for spending just a couple of years teaching in urban settings even though their privileged backgrounds don't prepare them for that, etc. Then an audience member stumped Kozol by making the point: "Isn't that exactly what you yourself did?" <br /><br />He actually said that no one had ever asked him that before! Rather stunning example of isolation, that no one would have asked him such an obvious question before. Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-36403180051145523822012-08-27T08:58:16.888-07:002012-08-27T08:58:16.888-07:00Stuart, I also make the claim that the moon has a ...Stuart, I also make the claim that the moon has a lot of rocks and craters, even though I have no personal experience there either. I go with what I read and hear. There's been plenty of writing to confirm what Paul is saying; start with Jon Kozol if you don't like my links.<br />Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-59069015917131673652012-08-27T08:27:49.927-07:002012-08-27T08:27:49.927-07:00Note: here's why I don't trust a thing tha...Note: here's why I don't trust a thing that Jim Horn says -- he hates KIPP so much that he lies even about easily checkable facts. <br /><br />http://stuartbuck.blogspot.com/2011/07/does-kipp-have-extracurriculars.html<br /><br />Anyway, I'd love to have my kids in a KIPP school. The whole reason they have extra time is so that they can spend some time on reading and math without giving up on music/art/etc. <br /><br />Check this out, for example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNBhtks_5M4 Sure, from a certain point of view, it's horribly oppressive and prison-like to see black kids actually learning the alphabet, but they also are seen doing dance and yoga.Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-33709473803030242672012-08-27T08:21:02.991-07:002012-08-27T08:21:02.991-07:00I tried to read the first Schools Matter post, but...I tried to read the first Schools Matter post, but the first paragraph was so histrionic that I wasn't motivated to keep reading. Anyway, the point is that you're making claims about narrowing instruction for which you have no personal evidence or rationale. Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-41693110928449660602012-08-27T08:17:23.201-07:002012-08-27T08:17:23.201-07:00This comment has been removed by the author.Farahhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13567835617172903097noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-27629218369458979462012-08-26T20:01:55.055-07:002012-08-26T20:01:55.055-07:00http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2010/09/why-does-kip...http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2010/09/why-does-kipp-not-look-like-sidwell_01.htmlDukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-7700670070750979412012-08-26T19:36:55.992-07:002012-08-26T19:36:55.992-07:00Stuart:
http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2012/03/why...Stuart:<br /><br />http://www.schoolsmatter.info/2012/03/why-students-call-kipp-kids-in-prison.html<br /><br />Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-38274137378682268992012-08-26T19:10:16.503-07:002012-08-26T19:10:16.503-07:00Nope.
What's your point?Nope.<br /><br />What's your point?Dukehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16535645107179796099noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-9025948832913694345.post-86848363632921667592012-08-26T16:56:16.436-07:002012-08-26T16:56:16.436-07:00Have you ever been in a KIPP school for a day or s...Have you ever been in a KIPP school for a day or so? Stuart Buckhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05731724396708879386noreply@blogger.com